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Post by Firehawknwv on Apr 6, 2007 23:24:38 GMT -5
Well this spring/summer Im gonna have a few more mods up my sleve. I have a few of them now and the others will be coming. Here is what Im planning.
-repaint the car with Trans am bumper on -Vigilante 3000 stall, sitting in my room -maybe the GM 4.10 gear i have -corvette cervo -v8 Trans Am sway bars -Abott Racing stage 2 heads with ported upper and lower intake -26lb v8 injectors -v8 sway bars with energy supension poly bushings and endlinks
The car should be a beast of a v6 after all that work I think. I cant wait to see the gains I get from it.
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Post by DJsZincGT on Apr 7, 2007 8:16:57 GMT -5
If I were you, the first thing I'd do is put that gear in. You will see the biggest increase in acceleration with that then any other thing you are doing. Trust me, gears make a world of difference.
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Post by Firehawknwv on Apr 7, 2007 12:25:00 GMT -5
yea, but I hear that the gear will put down less power to the ground and so will the stall. That is why I said maybe on the gear. I want to be able to feel the power not loose it. Remember I have a 3.73 now and a 4.10 is just one steup of so it may not be that much of a difference. The stall i also have already sitting in my room.
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Post by DJsZincGT on Apr 7, 2007 13:05:56 GMT -5
Just because you put a different gear in and a bigger stall does NOT make you lose power. Yes, it will read lower on the dyno because of the torque multiplier of the gear, but your engine will still produce the same power. All they do is skew the dyno results. You're not searching for a dyno number anyway, you're searching for a number at the track. That peak number doesn't mean shit. How fast the car gets into the entire power band is much more important than a peak dyno number. A higher stall and steeper gear will get you there quicker. Look at it this way, drag racers put huge stalls and steep gears in their cars to accelerate faster right. So why would it be any different with your car? And there is a big difference between a 3.73 and 4.10. TRUST ME!!!
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Post by Firehawknwv on Apr 7, 2007 22:42:28 GMT -5
What do you mean skew the dyno results?
I know the engine wouldnt be loosing the power its already making,but I know it looses it at the wheels on a dyno. I know a steeper gear and stall will make the car faster all around, but I thougth the stall would allow more power to get through the rest of the drivetrain. Would it be easier to chirp or burn the tires? I know the cervo Im puttin on the tranny will help the shifts. Ther stall I have is a 3000, but the Vigilante brand low balls there stalls for some reason so it really will stall about 3300. Im still not sure on what gear/stall setup I want to go with. There is a guy who wants to trade me a band new TCI 3800 stall for the one I have now cuz he wants mine cuz Vig makes them better and he wants to have it restalled and added components to run nitrous. So my choices are:
3000 stall/ 3.73 3000 stall/ 4.10 or 3800stall/3.73 3800stall/4.10
I want it to give good results but still not to ruin me on mpg cuz as u know ts a DD. So what do you think brah.
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Post by DJsZincGT on Apr 8, 2007 16:37:03 GMT -5
Skewing the numbers means, the numbers will be SLIGHTLY lower but they aren't REAL numbers. Yes it's true that if you dyno with the stock gear and then change to say a 4.56 gear and dyno it again, the numbers will be lower. But really, where did the power go? It didn't go anywhere. The ONLY reason the numbers are different is because of the multiplication factor brought on by the steeper gear. It messes up the numbers a little on the dyno, but they aren't real world numbers. Any good tuner will tell you the same thing. As far as the stall goes, the reason they read lower is because they are non-locking convertors. If you were to buy a locking convertor, which btw you don't need, the dyno numbers would go up. It's really not a true testament as to how much power you are making. Dyno numbers are just that...numbers. The true test of how much horsepower you are making will show up at the track in the MPH. My car put down 401hp on the dyno. It has trapped at 90-91 MPH in the 1/8th through a 5 speed. Now, you can take my setup and put it in a car with an automatic with a stall and a gear and it may only put down 330hp, but yet it still traps 90-91 MPH. That's enough to tell me that there is more getting to the ground than 330hp. Dyno numbers are just a baseline. They really don't mean anything. They just get you in the ballpark. I wouldn't trade that guy if I were you since it is a DD. That 3800 stall will get old no matter what gear you have in the rear end. It would be worse with the 3.73.
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Post by Firehawknwv on Apr 8, 2007 18:33:12 GMT -5
So it woudl be best to go with the 3.73 gear and 3k stall. Hey Im also ordering those sway bars this week and Im goin to Autozone to get some Energy Suspension poly sway bar bushings and end links. Maybe if you have time when I get the bars you could help me put them on if you dont care.
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Post by Evomaniac31 on Apr 9, 2007 4:38:00 GMT -5
wish i new what you all were talking about. lol
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Post by Firehawknwv on Apr 9, 2007 12:37:50 GMT -5
Well if you had an American car maybe you would , lol.
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Post by DJsZincGT on Apr 9, 2007 15:32:06 GMT -5
oh no...here we go
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Post by Evomaniac31 on Apr 9, 2007 16:45:57 GMT -5
blah blah blah! oh wait i do have an american vehicle. and possible be getting another one. hehe
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Post by Firehawknwv on Apr 9, 2007 22:12:42 GMT -5
Wth u talkin bout?
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Post by DJsZincGT on Apr 10, 2007 6:37:19 GMT -5
he's buying a chevette!
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Post by Evomaniac31 on Apr 10, 2007 6:55:51 GMT -5
close. lol it is just a possibility. have to wait and see how the insurance is, and the final price the guy will take.
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Post by Firehawknwv on Apr 10, 2007 13:35:42 GMT -5
Ah ok and Im gonna get a Pinto.
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